Bah humbug Gregor!
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sweet pea
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Is there anything you couldn't do as a JW that you wish you couldn't do now
by Gregor incelebrate christmas.
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sweet pea
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Is there anything you couldn't do as a JW that you wish you couldn't do now
by Gregor incelebrate christmas.
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sweet pea
Bah humbug Gregor!
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Name Things You Wanted To Do As A JW But Couldn't--- That You Do Now
by minimus inwhen you were a witness, there must've been things that you really wanted to but couldn't because you were not able to.
give us some examples, please..
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sweet pea
So many things big and small.....
- celebrate birthdays/easter/Xmas/Pancake day, but especially buying things for people you love on their special day
- say bless you when someone sneezes
- say cheers/clink glasses (used to do this anyway but always felt slightly guilty)
- lose the guilt
- have a blood transfusion in the face of death
- associate with/love anyone I choose
- reach out to disfellowshipped/fading ones
- question everything
- go to a dance class on a meeting night
- laugh at any jokes without feeling guilty
- get involved in community matters
- stand up and respect the National Anthem
- go and see any movies I choose
- be a buddhist/Christian/Athiest - whatever floats my boat
- therapy
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I HAVE MADE A DECISION TO LEAVE
by Maddie ini haven't been on jwd for the last few days as my good friend had her mum die suddenly and i have been spending time just being there for my friend.. i was shocked and saddened to hear that trevor and linda was a sham.
it's sometimes hard not to become cynical with life and not trust anyone when this sort of thing happens.. i have made a big decision and i hope that i don't live to regret it.
i have posted that i have been trying to "fade" as my son and his family are jw's and i don't want to lose them because of being shunned.
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(((Maddie)))
You're very brave Maddie, you know the score. You've obviously spent a lot of time agonising over this decision and I'm sorry for the pain you will undoubtedly go through when your son chooses not to have anything to do with you. It will be more painful for you as his mother and the grandmother of his daughter, than for him as your son.
We are here for you as your friends, please don't ever forget that and we understand your pain.
If you do follow through and make it official you will be totally free and only good can come of it and who knows, with more and more leaving every day, one day your son may see the real truth and seek you out.
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Ian - I didn't want to attend and give them that feeling of power - that's the real reason I didn't go - I also wanted to test them out and see how unloving and what depths of unkindness they would go to to achieve their goal. The doctors note was part of that plan.
If I had my time over I wouldn't have sent it BUT I did. I knew they would probably disfellowship us and I wanted them to have something that might possibly make just one of those hard, uncaring men think, that would appeal to the real person inside not the cult member. I don't regret it. If just ONE person - those elders, someone on JWD, an old friend who stumbles across our story - is helped, then it won't have been for nothing. -
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Hi guys - thanks for all your kind, supportive and encouraging words - all confirmation we've done the right thing.
Just a little more info on our letter - we were basically informed that the elders were going to hold our JC whether we attended or not. I had broken down at the doctors and didn't feel mentally and emotionally up to going through the whole kangaroo court and so she wrote me a letter to the elders (all four of them) saying that I was not well enough to attend. One of elders phoned Paul and asked if I had Post Natal Depression, if so it wasn't a good enough excuse not to attend as "these things could go on for years" - so loving.
So, I didn't go and sent the other letter in my place. Paul went as he said he wanted to find out who our accusers were. Interestingly, when we asked the elders if there were going to be any witnesses at the JC (the first one, on the Friday night that neither of us attended), they categorically said "No". This was the one where my BIL flew 900 miles round trip to give his evidence at - so the elders lied - nice.
In hindsight, I probably wouldn't have given them the satisfaction of a letter and Paul would not have attended but what's done is done and we can move on and enjoy a happy life with our family without looking over our shoulders and hopefully some of our loved ones and even those elders will come to their senses and we'll get them back in our lives.
Jgnat - thanks for asking how we are now. My wrist still gives me a lot of grief but that's life. It serves as a reminder how well the rest of me still works! :-) Archie is 2 and half now and getting more adorable by the day (such a shame that his aunty/uncle and grandmother don't want to know him anymore). Bertie is over his op and an extremely happy thriving little baby boy. After 9 months he is finally sleeping through the night so things are getting easier.
Purza - well done on your successful fade, sorry to hear you've had a similar experience on the brother front. Unfortunately it's the cult member inside him that proved disloyal - one day you may get your real brother back.
libh - sorry for what you've been through, hope to meet you in London.
Rollerdave - love your idea of the website with everyone's letters - there are quite a few on www.jwfacts.com if anyone needs some inspiration.
Journey on - love your concept of fantasy points with Jehovah!
Estee - hugs for what you've been through. It makes us stronger and more compassionate people.
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Happy Anniversary to Me!
by Crumpet innever one to blow her own trumpet (yeah right) i thought i'd come in and thank you all for three years of entertainment, life changing information, reunions with old friends and the making of so many new ones.. i'm glad i came here.. (wonders if what ip sec said on the trevor gate thread about this board being so nice three years ago was a dig at me....).
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oh yes and happy anniversary to fullofdoubtnow in advance for 24th october.
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sweet pea
Happy Anniversary darling!
Great to know you - and all because of JWD.....
You are an amazing girl.
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And if any of my dear friends find their way on here as a result of curiosity (as I'm very sure someone won't be able to resist letting others know that Sam and Paul's JC letter is on the internet) - I want you to know....
Life is fantastic outside. I have no regrets (other than a couple of things I said in my letter that were prompted out of severe pain that I was experiencing at the time due to losing all of my friends overnight).
Vic, Pam, Jill, Sarah, Ellie, Naomi, Faith & Marcus, Soozie, Sarah, Sandra, Gill & James, Emma
I miss you all big time but punishing me like this won't ever move me to come back.
Please, please, please check these things for yourself before the sacrifice is too great. This site is an amazing place, not one to be scared of - truth has nothing to hide. You will find most of the answers here to your questions and a loving, supportive community that will never judge or condemn you.
One day I hope that we will be friends again. You are all in my heart forever. -
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2008 District Convention Theme
by R.F. inokay, so it should be very soon when the theme for the 2008 convention will be made public.
what do you think the them will be?
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sweet pea
"It's nearer than you think"
"This generation will by no means pass away"
"Keep from becoming enslaved to all that will make you truly happy"
"Keep from becoming enslaved to logic and reason"
"Trust in those who are trusting in themselves" -
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It seems I have my JW brother back
by MegaDude inwith the shit going down on this board as of late i'd like to post something really good that happened to me lately.
i got my brother jw brother back.
back in 2001 of this same month i posted about letting jw relatives go because i got tired of the pain of hoping those relationships would be restored when it seemed impossible.
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Megadude - what wonderful news - I'm so pleased for you.
Just goes to show we should never give up hope for our loved ones lost to the cult.
SP